Decided I'd make a separate thread for this seeing how there's really only two guys we're going after in 2012 at this point.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like Texas A&M and State are the big players for Young. Also, from a couple of things I've read, it sounds like he would really like to be at Oregon, although I don't know why this hasn't been emphasized more if true. It looks like UK jumped in late, and Young was quoted saying he'd be stupid to not give them a fair shake. That said, with UK getting Noel, that makes two centers in their 2012 class, so I think they're essentially out now.
I like our chances to beat out Texas A&M. However, if he really does have a soft spot for Oregon in his heart, I'd find that to be an issue. State has to look attractive to him in terms of competitiveness though. I could see Howell starting at center, with Young coming off the bench to spell him. Young would then start for the 2013-2014 season (He would have 2 years of eligibility right?). I don't think Leslie plays a huge roll in this. I would think Young would want to play for a team in the spotlight, and Leslie would keep us there for this coming season. At the same time if Leslie leaves, you could potentially see Howell continue to start at the 5, with Young playing the 4. Either has their benefits for Young.
What do you guys think?
Last edited by jmbauman; 04-11-2012 at 09:39 PM.
I agree with ya man. I really like our chances against Oregon and A&M. I think young could really help us with his size and passing ability. I also think he would get a lot of playing time now that painter is gone and i don`t see it affecting him if Leslie comes back. I really hope we get him.
well, from all accounts, he his already familar with the high post. he could step right in to painter's spot. if jefferson picks us, all the more better, as they say. then there's oriakhi, so who knows at this point. i feel like the dominos will start falling now that shabazz and noel have chosen.
If we were to get young.... i liken this lineup up very much
Brown
Wood
Leslie
Howell
Young
Young is just that skilled. and I don't see why you guys don't want Leslie or wood at the the 2&3 because both of them are mismatch nightmares on both ends of the floor.
with the high post, the positions are somewhat blurred, so i don't get caught up in 2s and 3s and the like. i'm not sure i see young stepping into a starting position coming in. depends on a lot of things. the good thing is, we will be able to run big or small next year.
Lol that would be a tall line up, and hey it would give Leslie a chance to play as more of SF. Although, in reality it would be us playing with a front court of 3 players, which would be pretty interesting. And don't forget, Wood has developed a pretty killer lay-upOriginally Posted by thenewclass13
I don't like any lineup that doesn't have Rodney Purvis as the SG. It would be nice to have all that size, but we need Rodney out there.
We don't NEED anybody out there. You see him and you put him in .. but based on what? will rodney finish the year as a starter? yea probably. But He probably won't start out that way. There are finer point of the game that scott wood gets as a senoir that rodney won't right away. so physical tools aside. i want my best decision makers out on the court to start my game.
I posted this in the 2012 recruiting thread, but since it is about Young I'm going to post it again over here. There is a link to an article at the end in which Young is quoted as saying he grew up dreaming about playing for the Ducks.
This would be one heck of a recruiting class:
PG- Tyler Lewis
SG- Rodney Purvis
SF- TJ Warren
PF- Amile Jefferson
C- Andrew Young
I just came across an article about Andrew Young, and it would seem we are in his final three and he will be visiting this weekend.
http://oregon.247sports.com/Article/...-forward-69388After dominating the junior college ranks as a sophomore this past year Young has seen his college choices grow and continue growing.
“Well right now I somewhat have a final three after going over all these offers,” says Young. “I visited Texas AM a few weeks ago and then Oregon this past weekend and then I’ll be going to N.C. State this weekend.”
Young thought he was able to dwindle a whos who list of west coast offers and a few national ones down those three.
“But then some big name schools have come on late,” admitted Young. “Vanderbilt has offered me a few weeks ago and I know Kentucky is really picking up on their interest and I should be getting an offer from them soon. I am still deciding if I’d like to take my fourth visit or not because I was down to those original three. If I do take my fourth visit it will be either to Vanderbilt or Kentucky.”
Young says he is attracted to the appeal of playing in a college atmosphere and playing someplace that is known for being in a college town.
Last edited by NCSUStu; 04-11-2012 at 10:20 PM.
“How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it.”
We have three scholys.
Amile
Andrew
Hood
isn't it nice to have all of these lineup "problems"? we will have options next year compared to this year, where we didn't have much of a plan b. i look forward to seeing what the staff can do with all of these pieces.
Yeah I copied a post from the pre-painter era. I agree go after all three.
“How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it.”
Sorry newclass, but if you don't think Rodney is the starting SG day 1, I can only scratch my head. Scott is a fixture at the 3, CJ if he comes back is the 4, and Richard the 5. That was the lineup last year, and it will be the lineup this year.
Andrew Young's recruitment feels like a heavy Oregon lean to me. I remain positive because State had a better season than either Oregon or Texas A&M. I was worried because we seemed to have a very crowded front-court and he might not see much time next year, but now with Painter's pending transfer we will have more minutes available that I think both Young and Jefferson could contribute next season. Howell and Young at center, and Leslie and Jefferson at power forward. I would expect JV and TDT to get limited playing time. Point being I think this may present an opportunity for our recruits.
“How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it.”
I do feel like with the number of players we're going to be losing next year regardless, we need to try to use of the last three remaining scholarships. I think the last scholarship is obviously to be saved if Torian does qualify some how (at this point I think that torian to prep isn't completely sourced on anything other than it's what the perception is, for all we know he's double timing it this semester and will qualify). Otherwise I think we use it on a transfer such as Hood. Oriakhi isn't happening at State, unless Leslie leaves and we don't get Young or Amile. He hasn't really mentioned us anyways, but if he had, he's going to have 1 year of eligibility and is probably only going to a team that can promise him a starting roll. I don't see this staff blowing a scholarship on a last minute guard in the 2012 class that isn't cut out for ACC play. We ran with a 3 guard rotation last year, and yes if we run into injuries we might be in trouble, but worse case scenario wood or harris plays some 2, which would be interesting to see, but better than lining up another scholarship player that's going to transfer in a year and hurt recruiting.
i have to disagree, shooter. i see purvis stepping right in to cjw slot with the rest staying put.
?? That's what I said.
duh, so much for reading comprehension!!
No problem. I just don't get how someone can think the team goes through a full year with guys learning the offense and learning their positions in the offense, the coach is suddenly going to throw it all up in the air and switch everyone around. Especially when you have someone as skilled as Purvis coming in to take the 2 slot. It's an absolute no brainer.
Last edited by Shooter28; 04-11-2012 at 10:29 PM.
As for Purvis, I initially thought we may ease him in, and we still might. After the transfers my tune is changing. The staff knows our success will eventually depend on Purvis starting at SG and playing at a high level. He just may come out starting next season just so the staff can try to speed his development throughout the season.
“How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it.”
well, the only variable might be his familiarity with the high post and his basketball iq. there are, however, plenty of ooc games to hone that. in fact, the in-game training will start in spain this summer, so i think that becomes mostly a non-issue.
I wonder if the trip to Spain is gonna be used(or is already being used) to try and get Young and AJ here. A free trip to Europe, and they get to play bball. Does anyone know if A&M or Oregon are playing out of country this summer?
Yeah, the line-up will include Purvis from day one. He doesn't have as good a jumper as CJW did, but he can def drive the ball better and get contact. Plus he's an extra ball handler. Scott will start because he's too smart not to. CJL and Howell take the other spots. And if CJL doesn't come back *sniffle* then we have a glorified competition on our hands for that last spot between Amile, TDT, and Young. [Maybe Harris, too. But Harris has the potential to play the 3 position given his work ethic and fundamentals. Besides, Gott's offense works with virtually any line-up so long as there is two bigs.
cheers,
~spin
SMH. I guess i've never been one to ust give players spots. my bad.
and know i'm not under counting purvis's ability to start at all. i just think that scott at the two is a dangerous thing and running three front court players with leslie at the 3 would serve us better as far as mismatches around teh ACC.
Last edited by thenewclass13; 04-11-2012 at 10:46 PM.
Someone mentioned that in another thread [Stu, maybe]. But it's a well-taken point: You get to travel across the world. Now certainly it isn't the dispositive factor, but it definitely gets recruits' eyes all big and glassy.
cheers,
~spin
I'll go ahead and say that I think State ends up with Young. He didn't say it, but the way his coach was talking about NC State makes me think that the Wolfpack have a big advantage here. We'll have to wait and see, but that's just the feeling I got from him.
PackInsider=PI=Private investigators. You guys do great work, and get a lot of info before others.
I would agree with you, except that Harris will definitely be competing for the four spot. Harris definitely has the potential to play the 3, but next year we have Scott Wood and TJ Warren at the 3. I would imagine the playing time that Tyler Harris gets will be at the 4.
Yeah, I guess the one thing you can't decipher from text is cadence, tone, forthrightness, etc. FWIW though, I think that article conveys your impression: Young is ours to lose.
cheers,
~spin
gott and moxley flying all of the way out there HAS to have an impact on young and him flying all of the way out here must speak volumes as well. he wouldn't even do that unless he was really serious about us. how about he commits and signs this weekend while he's here?!
If CJL leaves, don't eliminate the possibility of Howell moving to the 4 and JV starting at center. He would be the only guy on the team that can legitimately protect the rim. Also, Howell is undersized at the 5. Hopefully CJL stays and we don't have to find out.
So there has to be some kind of ratings out there ranking the top juco transfers, right? Anyone know how Young ranks?
“How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it.”
I've heard. number 1 JUCO transfer thrown around more than a few times in regard to mister young
Sounds great. The staff has obviously known about Painter's need to transfer for a while. Young's recruitment makes perfect sense now. Young will get serious minutes next season. If Leslie goes pro, Young would likely start.
So Young would have 4 years eligibility right?
Two he's a JUCO transfer
tell u guys RP and TJ have way too much talent. gonna b hard to keep them off the floor. TJ is a scorer like we have not had since Rodney Monroe
I have watched many a video of this incoming class, and to be completely honest, I have to say that TJ Warren didn't really impress me at the start. He seemed kinda slow actually, not really that athletic, but he always found a way to score. Then, the more I looked at him, the more I saw kind of a broad bodied kid who could absolutely put the ball in the basket, almost at will. Then, I started seeing a body type, and a style of play, that kinda reminded of one Brenard King. Bernard was someone who didn't exactly wow you with any specific aspect of his game, he wasn't exceptionally quick, he wasn't an athletic freak, or anything of the sort. But there was never any doubt in anyone's mind, that the man could absolutely fill it up!!! And, he played pretty solid D as well. I'm not saying that I'm anywhere close to expecting anything like that from a young kid named TJ Warren, but my memory was definitely jogged while watching a few of his earlier HS videos.
^^ I see a poor man's Paul Pierce, but I'm only the billionth guy to make that comparison. Still agree with you, the kid is more and more impressive the more tape you watch on him.
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