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    Class of 2012 Football Recruiting

    Just wanted to restart the recruiting column that most people were following very well until PI changed the format of their website.

    More details to come...

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    Here are this year's commitments so far:


    Deylan Buntyn DT 6-4/335
    Niles Clark DB 5-10/175
    Terry Davis OL 6-4/270
    A.J. Doyle QB 6-3/226
    Eddie Gordon OL 6-1/322
    Xavier Griffin WR 6-2/180
    David Grinnage TE 6-5/240
    Charlie Hegedus WR 6-2/194
    K'Hadree Hooker DT 6-2/280
    Majid Salahuddin DB 6-3/190
    Josh Sessoms DB 6-3/186
    Manny Stocker QB 6-3/197
    James Summers QB 6-2/196
    Joe Wright DE 6-6/220

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    Packman, thank you for re-starting this. We want to really ramp up the football recruiting news and the thread on our last forum was doing a great job. We're sorry we had to deleat the old forum entirely, but it was becoming a bigger and bigger problem as we were trying to move forward. This forum software is the best in the industry.

    We look forward to helping you out along the way with info as you keep the updates coming!

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    Two commitments to other schools may be considering us again. LBs Khalil Pettway and Tashon Whitehurst have verbally committed to SMU and Syracuse, but are wavering in their commitments. Pettway is rumored to be visiting us for the GT game. Whitehurst is from Gainesville, FL. Pettway is from Culver City, CA. Both are 3* LBs on scout and rivals.

    Also, with the recent commitment of OG Terry Davis, our possibilities to get DJ Reader from Greensboro Grimsley appear to be very small.

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    LB Kenny Orijioke from Marietta Lassiter HS in GA has recently seen his stock explode. We do have a significant "in-roads" with Orijioke because of our current commits that also attend Lassiter (Hegedus and Clark). Also, starting C Camden Wentz also attended Lassiter. Orijioke is 6'4", 223 and is rated 3* on scout but NR on ESPN and rivals yet.

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    3* DE Tyler Knox from Myrtle Beach HS in SC visited last weekend for the S. Alabama game. We look to be in good shape for him right now.

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    Target 3* RB Shadrach Thornton is scheduled to visit Kentucky this weekend. Looks to be a two-horse race between us and Kentucky for his services. Supposedly is working on setting up an official visit to see us later this season.

    Target 3* RB/ATH Lakeith Walls from OH is leaning towards Northwestern despite coming to State for a visit during the S. Alabama game. Duke is the most recent school to offer him a scholarship.

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    Target LB Kenneth Bynum from FL has all but eliminated us for his services. Between Cincinnati and Illinois for him.

    Also, CB Gary Grant was dismissed from the team last week which opens up another DB scholarship. We thought that we could get CB Chris Bivins from FL to decommited from USF and commit to us during a visit a few weeks back, but it did not happen.

    Better opportunities for CB commitments are probably in this group: Tion Green, Ezra Robinson, or DJ Abnar. All three are from FL.
    Also, Ty Law is another interesting prospect. Some places have reported that he has a scholarship offer from us, but scout does not. Law is also from FL.
    Last edited by packman687; 09-23-2011 at 09:58 AM.

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    After last night's debacle, I would say that we definitely need to use 3-4 of the remaining scholarship for DEs and at least one more DT. Especially with McGill already burning his redshirt. I am not sure why Carlos Gray did not play last night and burn his redshirt. We actually played a walk-on DT in his place last night at Cincy.

    OL Adam Pankey may be the only other OL prospect that we will get to commit, if we take any more at all. OG Bryce Kennedy maybe an outside possibility, but I think that he might be cooling on us some. Kennedy is supposedly leaning to Duke.
    Last edited by packman687; 09-23-2011 at 10:53 AM.

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    I am really rooting for TOB to round a corner with recruiting. It seems like he's bringing in about the same level of talent that he brought to BC. Which, isn't terrible. It just isn't what he openly talked about when he came to Raleigh. He spoke as if the recruiting would be at a higher level here than in Boston. But, you look at our recruiting classes, and the only ones rated lower in the ACC, are Duke and Wake.

    I know that it's more about what you do with your players, and the character of your guys. But talent counts, too. And, depth. Where we have 14 guys, right now, most other ACC schools have signed 17-18 guys. We need quality depth, and our injuries prove that we aren't there yet. In year five of TOB, you'd hope that we'd have gotten close.

    I know I sound bitter, and it's probably because of the bad taste left in my mouth after last night. But, I really want this crew to succeed in Raleigh. I think they can. But, they are going to have to start pulling in better classes in order to compete. The occasional 4-star guy wouldn't hurt, right? I'm sure there are some 4-star guys without character issues, right? Maybe not.

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    Our main problem is that the 4* players from the immediate areas that we usually get recruits from (OH, NC, SC, FL) have already been raided by South Carolina, Clemson, Florida State, and other teams that have had recent successes that we have not (Or places that outrecruit us like Vanderbilt and Virginia that have more "youthful coaches.")

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    Hope may exist on the horizon. We have plenty of playing time to offer because our defense is so shallow with talent and because we have so many injuries. And, North Carolina is supposed to be stocked with talent for the 2013 class. There are already over 15 NC players in the ESPN 250 Watch list for 2013.

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    Hope may exist on the horizon. We have plenty of playing time to offer because our defense is so shallow with talent and because we have so many injuries. And, North Carolina is supposed to be stocked with talent for the 2013 class. There are already over 15 NC players in the ESPN 250 Watch list for 2013.
    Excellent, and hopefully none of them will be committing to UNC after they get slammed with sanctions, which makes us clearly the top in state school to play for.

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    You cannot consistently recruit in the 60's (of 120 schools) and expect to play in the teens.

    NO ONE can do it.

    Howler

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    ^ You are exactly right, Howler.

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    I wonder how our recruiting budget stacks up against other ACC schools. I think one of the big problems may be that we just don't pony up the funds to send our coaches various places to recruit and scout talent. Seems like we are consistently beating up the same recruiting areas where we are always getting what is leftover after the top programs "cherry-pick" the best recruits in that area.

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    It appears that Hegedus may be getting caught up in the hype of the recruiting process and waffling on his commitment a little. Hopefully he stays, but I would call him a soft verbal now.

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    I would like to think that our coaches will drop in on RB/ATH Lakeith Walls, OL Adam Pankey, DT Trae Clark, and WR/TE Mike Roberts while we are in Ohio this week.

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    No doubt, Roberts is intruiging to say the least.

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    While PI was changing, Target ATH Marty Williams from SC committed to Clemson.

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    Another new interesting prospect. RB/ATH DJ Kee from Maryland. 5'11", 185, 4.5. No offer so far from us, but interesting.

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    The latest I had seen was that Gurley had completely cooled on us after a trip to UGA with Marshall. Supposedly we are not even in his top 3 any more.
    I would like to think that if we can't figure out our running game soon that Moose would redshirt and him and Creecy can split carries next season.

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    All indications were that we were out of it for him some time ago. Need to focus on Thornton.

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    Seems like the staff is really high on Lakeith Walls. He is definitely a "bigger back." (Not that they believe in utilizing one now or anything...).

    I'd like to see us get Walls/Thornton and Kenno Loyal at FB in this year's class. However, Loyal is more than likely SEC bound and it may take a substantial effort to get Thornton away from Kentucky.

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    Another interesting story that I have picked up on. Target OL DJ Reader has actually been playing more of a TE/Slot position for Greensboro Grimsley this year. Definitely athletic and strong enough to get significant yardage.

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    Thanks for all the updates Ritter....err I mean Packman. It's good to have you back doing your thing.

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    It feels like a bigger problem is consistency with the players we DO bring in. For the last several years, we have had unplanned rotations in players due to injuries. In almost feels like our basketball season not long ago when everyone seemed to blow out a knee.

    I'm all for bringing in more talent (who isn't), but to be honest, it is hard to see what talent we have because we don't have the opportunity to develop it.

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    I'm with Stu on thanking Ritter. The man's got knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packinsider View Post
    Packman, thank you for re-starting this. We want to really ramp up the football recruiting news and the thread on our last forum was doing a great job. We're sorry we had to deleat the old forum entirely, but it was becoming a bigger and bigger problem as we were trying to move forward. This forum software is the best in the industry.

    We look forward to helping you out along the way with info as you keep the updates coming!
    Um... yeah, all that I worked for... down the drain... I was fourth on the list! Fourth and now I'm just another forum cellar dweller, looking to gain the distinction that comes with being a top poster dog. Just pick up the pieces man, just pick up the pieces.

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    Pardon 'Glow, but with 6456 posts, I distinctly remember being somewhat ahead of you.

    Ummmm, or was it......?

    Drat !!!!!

    I swear I can't quite recall now.

    Howler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howler View Post
    You cannot consistently recruit in the 60's (of 120 schools) and expect to play in the teens.

    NO ONE can do it.

    Howler
    you hit the nail on the head, period!

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    So that explains it. Darn, Killer, and I thought it was the two bottles of wine last night.

    YEeeeOO !!!

    Hurting Howler

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    quit wining! like my daughter used to say when she was little, "that's what you forget!".

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    "Quit wining" ??

    Apropos maybe but you know that's just not right, Killer.

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    would you like some cheese with that whine?

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    With 14 commits I expect about 8 more commits. I would expect 1 RB, 2 OL, 1 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, and with the last spot either 1 WR, OL or S. Some guys we have a shot with to keep an eye out for at each position are below.

    RB (unfortunately our #1 target Shadrach Thornton just committed to UK after his official. We were trailing them all along though.)
    -Tion Green

    WR
    -Quinshad Davis-waiting for a UGA offer or other SEC programs. If they don't come we may get lucky here.

    OL(All these guys will probably end up at OG and we will probably take 1 of the 3. We also need an OT, but no favorites have emerged yet)
    -Adam Pankey
    -Bryce Kennedy
    -DJ Reader

    DE(This may not be a huge position of need, but we are in the top 4 with 2 great prospects.)
    -Tyler Knox
    -Alex McCalister

    LB
    -Schyler Miles
    -Quandarius Crump
    -Khalil Petteway-SMU commit
    -Tashon Whitehurst-Syracuse committ and teammate of CB target Chris Givens
    -Lakeith Walls-will get a shot at RB, but our staff loves his potential at LB where most schools are recruiting him for.
    -Kenny Orjioke-Even with teammate commits of Clark and Hegedus he has more interest in other schools. He just moved to GA from CA this year. Mom is an MD

    CB
    -Chris Givens-S FL commit and Whitehurst teammate
    -Marchez Coates- Pitt commit

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    With Thornton commiting to UK, I fully expect us to put on the full court press on Gurley, maybe even Loyal now.

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    DJ Abnar is another prospect that has the athleticism to play several different spots. Look for us to give him a serious look at CB/S.

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    Demetrius Williams can play both RB and WR, but I haven't heard anything about him in a long time. I know that he has made several trips to see us play in Raleigh. We absolutely have to have a RB in this year's class.

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    Here's the updated recruit board listing our commits and uncommitted prospects. I'm keeping up with the full list of prospects for review after signing day in February (subject to changes in coaching staff of course).
    2012 FOOTBALL RECRUITING BOARD
    Note : This list is in order of recruit by position and ranking. As Rivals has not as yet ranked any players, listed rankings are by Scout. The information contained on this
    board is nonpremium and available to anyone. All players listed have been offered (unconfirmed of course).
    # = Rivals 250 Watch + = The Ringer.com 150 * = ESPNU 150 Watch & = Scout 300
    POS NAME SCHOOL MEASUREABLES SCOUT RANK RIVALS RANK NOTES
    QB James Summers Page HS (Greensboro, NC) 6-2/196/ *** **** NCSU 4/4/11
    A.J. Doyle Catholic Memorial (West Roxbury, MA) 6-3/224 ** *** NCSU (placing here evn tho listed LB)
    Manny Stocker Coatsville Area SHS (Coatsville, PA) 6-3/200/4.58 N/A N/A NCSU
    WR Quinshad Davis Gaffney Senior HS (Gaffney, SC) 6-3/180 **** **** # &(232)
    Jeremy Glinton Northeast HS (Oaklank Park, FL) 6-2/185/4.50 ** ***
    Davonte Neal Chapparral HS (Scootsdale, AZ) 5-10/175/4.4 **** **** # *
    Stefon Diggs Our Lady Good Counsel HS (Olney, MD) 6-0/178/4.4 ***** *****
    Mike Roberts Benedictine (Cleveland, OH) 6-6/240/4.6 N/A ***
    Joel Caleb Clover Hill HS (Midlothian, VA) 6-2/200 **** N/A
    Jared Crump Bartram Trail HS (Fruit Cove, FL) 6-3/185/4.6 ** ***
    Xavier Amerson Winter Park HS (Winter Park, FL) 6-3/200/ ** N/A
    Xavier Griffin Newark HS (Newark, DE) 6-2/185/4.5 ** N/A NCSU
    Charlie Hegedus Lassiter HS (Marietta, GA) 6-2.5/187/4.5 ** N/A NCSU
    RB Keith Marshall Millbrook HS (Raleigh, NC) 5-11/190/4.32 ***** **** # + * Likely SEC bound;1550Yds/17TD
    Wes Brown Our Lady Good Counsel HS (Olney, MD) 6-0/190/4.6 ***** **** # +
    Demetrius Williams Bamberg Erhardt HS (Bamberg, SC) 5-10/175/4.49 *** N/A 140car/1458Yds/11TD 18Rec/223Yds/3TD
    Todd Gurley Tarboro HS (Tarboro, NC) 6-0/190/4.5 *** N/A RMT All Area POY 139car/1472yd/26TD
    Kenno Loyal Columbia HS (Decatur, GA) 5-10/210 *** N/A *
    Shadrach Thornton Liberty County HS (Hinesville, GA 6-1/190/4.55 *** N/A
    Dorian O’Daniel Our Lady Good Counsel HS (Olney, MD) 6-1/185/ *** N/A
    Traveon Henry Pinecrest HS (Ft. Lauderdale, FL) 6-1/200/ *** N/A
    Danny Dillard Venice HS (Venice, FL) 6-2/205/ N/A ***
    Lakeith Walls James Ford Rhodes HS(Clevland,OH) 6-4/200 *** N/A
    Ath Cyrus Jones Gilman School (Baltimore, MD) 5-11/183/4.5 **** **** # + *&(249)
    Blake Tibbs Martin Luther King (Lithonia, GA) 6-2/165/ N/A ***
    Mike Dumas Island Coast (Cape Coral, FL) 6-2/185/ N/A N/A

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